Episode Transcript
Speaker 1 00:00:15 Well, the weekly deep dive podcast on the ad-on education network, the podcast where we take a look at the week, we've come follow me discussion and try to add a little insight and unique perspective. I am your host, Jason Lloyd here in the studio with my friend. And this show is producer Nate Pifer. What's up, Nate? It's good to be back in the studio. I love being back in the studio. Let's do this. Let's do it. Hey, just a thanks to those of you. We got an email from the come follow me app. A bunch of you had reached out to them and requested that they add our show on there and they gave us a spot on the app. So thanks guys. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you everybody. In this week, we're going to jump into a pretty loaded section. We're going to talk about Isaac getting his wife, although he doesn't play a very active role in that process, which is weird.
Speaker 1 00:01:07 We should probably talk about that again, but okay. Keep going. Yup. Yup. Um, Abraham gets married again after his old age and his wife passes away and has some more kids. I don't know that. We're going to say a whole lot about that. Uh, we're going to talk about Rebecca. I think she, she doesn't give as much D doesn't get as much credit as she deserves. And we're going to talk about Jacob and Esau, the twin brothers. So I love the story of Jacob and Esau. Yeah, I'm looking, I'm looking forward to some of your comments on Jacob and Esau. I have thoughts. Good. Yeah, I don't, I don't think Esau gets the credit he deserves. I totally agree with this. You're you're already taken you're already. You're already upstage in my thoughts, dude. I'll I'll I'll let's just wait until we get there and then let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 00:01:57 I'll play it low and pull back the reins a little bit. Okay, Jason, I'm on it. Okay, let's go. Let's go. Let's get into this. All right. First off, let's talk about Abraham sending his servant. And when we say his servant, I think it's fascinating is I'm trying to look back and remember what is the name of Abraham's servant? And I go through this entire chapter 24 and he does not mention his name once. And it gets to the point where he is introducing himself to Rebecca's family, to her father, to her brother. And he says, I am. And I'm like, here it comes here. It comes. And he says, Abraham servant. And you're like, oh man hits. It is intentionally left out. And it is mentioned earlier. We saw that last week's lesson. When Abraham goes to God and says, I am about to die and everything is going to my servant. I don't have, I don't have my air that you promised me. So Eliezer's his name? Why don't they use his name here? And I think that the servant really becomes an unsung hero. I don't know that we appreciate the role that he plays in this. And Abraham makes him swear by, by placing his hand under Abraham's thigh. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:03:20 Nate knows where this is headed. Well, I know that the Hebrew word thigh here is kind of the soft fleshy part and it's used for the loins. Uh, it's a euphemism and it's, it's not that you're necessarily touching it, but you're putting it underneath and covenanting on, on something. I don't know that we can overstate this. There is such an importance, particularly in the old world, on your family, continuing on your seed on your posterity. There's rules that if you die before you can have a child, that your brother can marry your wife and bring up seed to your name, to keep that line going so that you can stay in the, in the history. I mean, we get to all of these sections that you love so much about begetting because they care so much about it. And it's not unique to the Bible.
Speaker 1 00:04:20 Even in, we we've talked about some of these treaties or covenants over there. Some of the blessings of these treaties that they would write is if you follow these terms, may your seed continue forever. Whereas if you don't may, may your seed be cut off. So it was, it was a huge deal. And it's interesting here, we've talked about the nature of Abraham that he's not having his servant swear on his servants thigh. If you will, if you will. He's, he's having him swear by putting his hand under Abraham's thigh. And Abraham has already confessed to God. If he doesn't have an air, everything goes to the servant.
Speaker 1 00:05:10 You would think the servant has a large, I don't know his motive, the right word for this to, to not be successful on this. And, and what's the penalty. He's, he's swearing on Abraham's posterity. That's already evident if he doesn't fulfill this, Abraham got his son, but it's not done. The covenant with God is not fulfilled. If his son is sterile, if a son doesn't get married, if there's no more seed than the promises that God has done. So all of Abraham's faith in God, all of his faith in this line, continuing, he's putting in the hands of this servant that he's trusting and he's putting his own seed on the line, not the servants. The servant is no obligation. And in fact, he tells him, go to the land of my fathers and, and, and get us a wife for Isaac, not to the Canaanites.
Speaker 1 00:06:10 He refuses to allow Isaac to marry a Canaanite woman. And, and maybe that goes back to what we read with Noah and the, the, the, the stain that they had for the Canaanites. And then also you see in Sodom and Gomorrah and the way they treated strangers and the way they treated lots guests, how that went down for whatever reason, Abraham is just extremely opposed to the idea. He says, go to the land of my fathers. You'll find this woman there. And he doesn't even tell him which woman, this is how much trust Abraham is putting in the servant. He says, you find the right girl and tell her that she has to come back to where Isaac lives. And the servant says, well, what if she doesn't want to come back with me? Is it okay if I come back, get Isaac and bring him back to her? Is that okay? And Abraham says, no under no uncertain terms, that is not okay. She comes with you or you don't come back with the bride at all. And in fact, he says, if she refuses to come with you, then your obligation is done. You're fulfilled your commitment. I'm releasing you from your bond. Wow. So this is, this, this becomes super easy for the servant at this point, right? There is no there's no,
Speaker 2 00:07:39 What's the even has an easy out, he has
Speaker 1 00:07:42 An easy out.
Speaker 2 00:07:43 So it's almost what you're saying
Speaker 1 00:07:45 Is, is that he's got no skin in the game. In fact, he has skin on the,
Speaker 2 00:07:49 Yeah, exactly. That's wild.
Speaker 1 00:07:53 He said he can, he can decide not even to go into the land if he wants. And by the way, this is a long journey. He's going to have to cross a desert
Speaker 2 00:08:01 Dude. He could just go hang out somewhere for
Speaker 1 00:08:03 Awhile. He'd go hang out. Some Oasis, sip on some water, sit in the shade, come back and say, Abraham. I went and said, man, it didn't happen. Not interested. She said, if she wants, if he wants to come, she's going to have to come to me. I tried. And Abraham was say, okay, you're your obligations done? And Isaac's not going to have any children. So this is all yours now.
Speaker 2 00:08:27 Why do you think, keep going?
Speaker 1 00:08:29 Yeah.
Speaker 2 00:08:30 Why do you think the servant then is doing this?
Speaker 1 00:08:34 Because he loves his master? Is that what it
Speaker 2 00:08:36 Is? Is, is it go back to what we were saying about how Abraham is just the greatest person?
Speaker 1 00:08:43 Yeah. He had a lot of love and respect for Abraham, and he's not doing this to get gain, because if you wanted to get gain, he would have sabotaged the mission, his seed wasn't on the Abraham seed was on the line, his, his future, whatever share of Abraham's property is going to go to Isaac, or at least he's going to be minimized because of Isaac he's, he's got everything to lose and nothing to gain by doing a good job. The only reason he does a good job is not for what he can get out of it, but for the love and respect he has for Abraham,
Speaker 2 00:09:22 Does this parallel somewhat to the, to the parable of the, uh, the talents, our favorite parable? I think it does. Does it, it there's, there's some, there's some subtle things here that as we're kind of thinking through this, because again, it's hard for me to think. I'm just trying to think through what the motivation is for the servant to not take the easy way out and get everything right. Even though everything would be obviously, um, temporal, right? Like it would be short term because by the way, if you're making a covenant with all the symbolism here, again, of like of the covenants we make with God, and this is clearly a, uh, right symbolism of that, right. Kind of a parallel of that, um, in, in an, in a sort of a way he, he would basically only be looking at short-term game, even if he did break the covenant and just kind of take the easy way out. But I wonder if it's similar to this idea that a good servant does it because they love their master and not to get gain out of love rather than yes. And the reward in the end is so much more than what the short-term game gain would have been.
Speaker 1 00:10:38 Yeah. Abraham absolutely trusts him with, as we'll see, not just with 10 camels, but with gold, with a lot of precious things to go and whatever he needs for his trip, because he is the Stewart. He is, he is over everything. He can requisition anything Abraham has because he is in that position. It is all essentially his, he can say, this is what I need. This is what I'm going to take. And he had all okay to do it. And he's not acting out of fear that, oh, Abraham might hate me if I don't do it. So it's better to not do it at all. He's acting out of love. How do I make this go super well? And we find that he is a very inspired man. He has a lot of faith in God. He puts his faith in God and what he does to find a wife, I find very inspiring.
Speaker 1 00:11:30 He knew Abraham. We talked about the characteristics that the nature of Abraham last week, and being a man who was willing to short himself in trying to make sure that he was square or that the other party was taken care of to, to do whatever it took. And so when he gets to the land of Abraham's family, he says, God, if, if a girl comes up, so he comes in the evening and when the evening comes, it is the youngest daughter's responsibility to head out to the well and fetch the water for the night. You need water for maybe cleaning up the dishes or water for the night for whatever the case may be in the evening, the women come out and they take a pitcher of water and it's tied to a rope and they lower it down into the well, they draw the water out.
Speaker 1 00:12:27 And if they have to carry this back from the communal, well, back to their house, you can imagine that this is not going to be super large, right? She's got it. She's got to carry this on her shoulders or head or however she's going to carry it on her hip. Uh, maybe, maybe a couple of gallons at most back to her house. And so she she's there. He, he shows up to where the well is, and he's, he's traveling. He's got his camels. It says he has 10 camels, which is an important detail as he gets there. He says, Lord, I'm, I'm going to wait for somebody to offer me water. He doesn't have a picture on a rope that he can lower down to the, well, he has no means to access this water, but he's going to trust that someone is going to be kind enough to offer him water, knowing that he can't reach the water in the well, but not just that. He takes it one step further and says, if a maiden comes and offers me water and then offers to water, my camels to that will be a sign that she is, that she is the one. And why is that important? Why is that? The sign camels drink a lot of water and he's got 10 of these. I don't know if you know this, Nate, a camel can go through 53 gallons of water in three minutes in three minutes.
Speaker 2 00:13:58 It's in three minutes or are they drinking it? Do they have a fire
Speaker 1 00:14:02 Slack kit? That's a lot of water. No, but
Speaker 2 00:14:05 Seriously, how are they drinking that much water?
Speaker 1 00:14:08 That's what Campbell's do. Okay.
Speaker 2 00:14:09 I'm just saying like this it's just defying, like science to me. I don't know physics.
Speaker 1 00:14:16 Well, think of the logistics of, of giving water to one camel. If, if, if she's going to be offering him water and then she looks over, how, how tempting would it be for you, Nate? I mean, if we put ourselves in the situation of a young woman going out to the well to get water, you see a guy there with 10 camels and, and, and he's thirsty looking thirsty. It'd be easy to say, you know what? I've got a picture. I can give him a drink before I take this back. I can dip it in. Right?
Speaker 2 00:14:47 Yeah. That's, I'd be like, Hey, yeah, here, here's a pitcher. Do what you need to,
Speaker 1 00:14:52 But you would ignore the camels, right?
Speaker 2 00:14:53 Yeah. I would, I would act like they weren't even there. I would do that thing. When you see like your ex boyfriend or girlfriend at the movie theater, and you just have to pretend the whole time, like you just didn't see them. That's exactly what I would do with all 10 of those camels and
Speaker 1 00:15:07 Put, potentially avoid eye contact with him with I would
Speaker 2 00:15:09 Avoid icon. Honestly, I wouldn't, I would just go home. I would go home and tell my family, sorry, the Well's closed, closed early tonight.
Speaker 1 00:15:20 This is a lot of water.
Speaker 2 00:15:22 This is so much water.
Speaker 1 00:15:23 This is a lot of work. And the servant isn't asking her, Hey, can you feed my camels? He's waiting for the right maiden to approach him and offer this service. If your container only covers a couple of gallons of water, how many times are you going to have to draw water from that? Well, and feed that watering trough. And by the time you dip your container down, you fill it up, you pull it back up and then you go over and you dump it in the trough. It takes a couple minutes. By the time you've done that and go back to do it again. The Campbell's would have already drunken all the water that's in there. If you're talking one camel and it's drinking 50 gallons of water, you're talking, you're talking at least a couple dozen trips. You're talking now 10 camels. She could potentially be going to this. Well, 200 to 500 times getting water for this guy's Campbell. Is that something she really wants to get into? No.
Speaker 2 00:16:28 No, nobody does. But she does. Why? Cause she's
Speaker 1 00:16:31 Cool. And why does she get
Speaker 2 00:16:34 Her food? Because she gets it.
Speaker 1 00:16:36 Why does the servant put this as a requirement for a wife of Abraham son? Cause he
Speaker 2 00:16:42 Needs somebody else. That's as awesome as Abraham. That's
Speaker 1 00:16:45 It? That's it. How do you find somebody as awesome as Abraham?
Speaker 2 00:16:52 Here's a question. Yeah. Do you think she ended up making all the trips?
Speaker 1 00:16:57 I don't know how many trips she made, but she, she definitely made a lot.
Speaker 2 00:17:01 I'm surprised that the servant wasn't like, okay, cool. You pass the test. Don't worry about the camels. I'm just surprised the servant followed through with it. Like when she's like, Hey, I'll do this. He should have been like, oh, that's actually, it's like a, it's like a Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory. It's like, you just had the correct answer. Like you won, you won, you won everything.
Speaker 1 00:17:23 Well, he lets her do it. And, and the thing is okay, so you think of human nature and, and she is a woman. I don't think Rebecca gets enough credit in the Bible.
Speaker 2 00:17:36 Yeah. Rebecca is awesome.
Speaker 1 00:17:37 She is a woman like Abraham and that's what the servant knew he needed. If he was going to bring seed to Abraham, he needed a woman that was like Abraham. That was willing to go above and beyond for someone she did not know. And you look at human nature, someone else maybe could have gone there and said, you know, I see you have 10 camels. How much would you like to pay me to water them? Or I see you need some water. Do you want to borrow my pitcher for a while? And you can get the water for yourself and you could feed the camels. And when you're done, you can give me the vessel back and I can go do it. Right. There's a lot of ways this could have, this could have shaken out that didn't involve her doing all of the manual labor to serve these, this stranger.
Speaker 1 00:18:27 But, but she, she didn't negotiate. She didn't haggle. She didn't try to make him do. She went above and beyond to serve him. And, and when the, when he sees this, he knows he's found the right woman, but he also compensates her. So this, again, I think speaks to the fact that she did so much work. You don't, you don't give, he gave her several gold bracelets and a gold nose ring. And, and yes, you, you heard that right. A nose ring and it's not a nose ring that they were over the bridge of their nose, like a bowl. And in the ancient tradition, usually a nose ring was worn the left nostril. And why do we say nose ring as opposed to earrings in Hebrew, when they're referring to E uh, earrings, they use the a I M ending. So the, I am, I believe we've talked about this before, is the plural ending?
Speaker 1 00:19:25 The a, I M is the dual ending, meaning that there's two, if it was earrings, he gave her, they would have ended it with the a I am, but because it was a singular ring, then it was typically the singular ring was, was used in that time period, that tradition that custom as a nose ring that they would wear on their left nostril. So he gave her a gold nose ring and gold bracelets. And when she came home and Laban saw all of the gold that she had on and the gold that she had gotten, he runs out to meet the guy. So he's compensating her from the text heavily. He's, he's paying her a lot. And so I would say the effort that she's putting in, we can't discount it. We can't say, well, maybe he stepped in and helped, or maybe she didn't do as much, or maybe it wasn't as many girls. She, yeah, he paid her a very fair wage, but he didn't offer at first, she offered first and in return, he compensated her
Speaker 2 00:20:27 Heavily. Don't you think there's some functionality to what he's doing too though. Cause remember what's he about ready to do next?
Speaker 1 00:20:35 Ask her yes. To come join. Yes.
Speaker 2 00:20:38 What is, what do you think is probably a really compelling way to, to encourage somebody to come back with you to meet a stranger, to marry
Speaker 1 00:20:45 Them, let them know there's a security there. That's
Speaker 2 00:20:48 Exactly right. Jason. That's I'm saying it's like he is compensating her and he's also incredibly wise in, you know what I mean? In nuh negotiating and navigating that relationship. Yeah. Hey, thanks for all the help. And I also just want you to come with me to meet this dude. I promise he's awesome. Um, and marry him and, and can we go talk to your father about it? It's like, eh, uh, uh, okay. Or, Hey, here's a bunch of, here's a bunch of, uh, let me pay you for your effort. Here's just an insane amount of awesomeness. So Hey, now do you want to come back and meet this guy? I'm just saying there's some functionality in this too. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 00:21:30 And do you want to, you talked about the Weiss Stuart's. Do you want to looking at his behavior and how he handles the situation? Do you, do you want to put any fine points on that? Or
Speaker 2 00:21:44 For me, for me, I would just look at that and go again. If we're kind of relating it back to this parable, right. I am going to assume this I'm going to assume that this servant was probably pretty well taken care of. Yes. Like when it it's all said and done, I don't think that that's an unreasonable assumption. Right, right. I think that, like you said, out of love, he's probably not at all afraid that he's not going to be able to have a fairly good life and probably pretty well compensated. Right. And so what does he do with the extreme and by the way, again, in relation to the parable, this is this, this is the servant, that's getting a lot of responsibility. Right. You look at how wise and how awesome and what he's doing with it again, like shout out to the servant because he's awesome.
Speaker 1 00:22:35 Yeah. And who, who would the servant represent in this case? Or how, how do we want to interpret this?
Speaker 2 00:22:40 You could go, I think you probably could go a couple different ways, but, but really, um, is this, is this not what we're supposed to be doing? Right. How are we, are we not supposed to go out with our responsibilities and make the most of what we have stewardship over? But even to, again, like if you look at this in relationship and we've talked about this a couple of weeks in a row, where, where if Christ represents the bride groom, right. And, and the scriptures talked so much about the relationship of the bride groom with his church. So in, in, in the circle, I guess in this, if you, if you look at this story kind of in that context, what is the servant going out and specifically doing, trying to get the church that's exactly right. Trying to bring people to that marriage with Christ, right? Trying to bring people into that intimate relationship with God. And God gave him all resources, heavenly father in this case, right. Or Jesus either way, right. God gave the servant all necessary resources, but what's beautiful about this as you've already kind of said it an and this is the, maybe the five point I would want to put on him is did he go and say, this is who you are looking for. Exactly. No, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1 00:24:04 You find who you're supposed to find. Okay,
Speaker 2 00:24:07 I'm giving you the responsibility. I'm giving you the responsibility to go. You know what, and by the way, you have covenanted with me about what your job is and what your supposed to go do. And I'm also giving you all of the resources necessary, but I'm also allowing you to go and figure out how to do this. I think it's awesome. And I think it's incredibly spot on if in context, at least of that, of that relationship. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:24:43 I see absolutely us as, as servants, as, as missionaries, as ministers or our responsibility to help bring others to Christ or to bring ourselves to Christ and in how we serve God and how we do our responsibility. And he acted very much like Abraham would have acted, he acted very generous. He acted very fair and, and he acted with a lot of wisdom and a lot of faith. And I don't know, it's, it's cool to see Abraham putting himself in that position of weakness, just as God put himself in the position of weakness, making that covenant with Abraham, we've talked a lot in this podcast about what it means to be a God. But I think the Stuart was also doing that and, and trying to be generous and loving Abraham and not letting him down, going above and beyond to try to serve him. But then you see that same thing play out with, with Rebecca and just that love and how it, how it grows and out. And now I'm just kind of rambling a little bit, but no
Speaker 2 00:25:47 I'm with you. Well, that's great. I mean, I think that that's, I think, I think that the, uh, I think we've highlighted the symbolism there.
Speaker 1 00:25:53 I love the story and I love the servant. Let's let's maybe take a minute just to talk about Rebecca in, in what, and what that application to me. I, I see this in a couple of different ways. Um, one of them maybe on a simple scale right in the morning when I get up and I go upstairs and it, and sometimes I go up there after my kids have already been through the hurricane that is getting ready for school in the morning. And when they're getting their breakfast and they pour for their bowl of cereal. If, if my wife doesn't come up there first and, and get like a warm water of, of, of dish soap for them to wash their dishes in, then they'll just pile their bowls in the sink. Because, because it's not, there's there for them to wash it with. But if she does, and they're like, oh, I guess I don't have an excuse to not wash my dishes. I'll wash it. But seeing the strainer, there's still the whole pile of dishes from the night before last night. And it turns into this reverse game of Jenga of like, yeah, yeah. How, what, what more dish can I stack before this pile collapses?
Speaker 2 00:27:05 Because that's the thing is you lose when it collapses because then stuff falls everywhere. And then everybody looks at you and you know, at that point you lost the game and now you have to pack everything back up. Like you have to put it away at
Speaker 1 00:27:17 That point. Yeah. And luck
Speaker 2 00:27:20 Lloyd kids.
Speaker 1 00:27:21 The thing that's terrible about it is is those dishes were dry. They air dried. Like it would be so easy to just put them away. But when you start stacking wet bowls, upside down on them and now everything stoked. And you're like, okay, now, now we have to wait for them to dry. Or someone's got to pull out. So inevitably my wife, where I pull out a towel, dry, all the dishes, put them all away and we're doing a big disservice to our kids. But compare that to, to Rebecca, like did, did she try to dance around and do as least amount of work possible or in our everyday lives? What, what things do we do where we try to avoid eye contact, or we try to avoid doing that or, or the garbage can right there that, that refers Jenga game with the garbage can, can I squeeze one more something into the garbage can so that somebody else has to take it out because somebody else will do it.
Speaker 1 00:28:17 Somebody else will do it. Rebecca's attitude. Abraham's attitude. If we want to be like, God, our attitude cannot be somebody else will do it. I've got to do it myself. Love it. Okay. And then on a larger point, I wanted to take this and compare this. You've got the story of Abraham on one side. Now you have the story of Rebecca on the other, this sandwich of generosity of going the extra mile in the middle of the sandwich is the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. And I think oftentimes Sodom and Gomorrah because of the sexual nature of the sins that were happening at the time when the angels were there, it's very construed with, with this sexual, uh, place of, uh, how do I handle VNC deviance, right? Sexual deviance, but the scriptures make it clear. And Ezekiel chapter 16, it says, this was the sin of Sodom pride, fullness of break and abundance of idleness.
Speaker 1 00:29:22 Neither did Saddam strengthened the land hand of the poor and needy. What was the sin of Sodom? Pride, fullness of bread and abundance of idleness. I said that wrong. The first time take care of the poor and they didn't take care of the poor and the needy. And this idea of the strangers in the land. These two messengers were strangers in the land. Look at that. The love Moses, it makes it very clear. Exodus 22 thou shalt, neither vex, a stranger nor oppress him for you were strangers in the land. X, this 23 thou shalt not oppress. The stranger six days shall not work. And on the seventh day, you rest that the stranger may be refreshed Leviticus 19. And now shout not glean dive vineyard, neither shout though, gather every grape of the vineyard, thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger. And if a stranger, so journ with the, in the land, you shall not vex him.
Speaker 1 00:30:26 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you. Thou shalt love him as thyself for you are strangers in Egypt. And then to put a fine point of this Deuteronomy chapter 10, 18, he does execute the judgment of the fatherless and the widow. And loveth the stranger in giving him food. And Raymond Love you. Therefore, the stranger for you were strangers in Egypt. God cares about the strangers, the whittle lists and the fatherless, the ones in society that fall through the cracks. They don't have a support system. They don't have neighbors. They don't have people taking care of them. So you look at the strangers, the three visitors to Abraham rushed out to and got water for and killed the calf and made bread. And then you look at the strangers that go into Sodom and Gomorrah, and the people are trying to sexually violate them. And then you look at the strangers than Rebecca's case, the stranger that shows up with camels and she, she volunteers to go the extra mile to get water for his camels, to love the stranger.
Speaker 1 00:31:42 And so, as I was thinking about the sin of Sodom, being pride, fullness of bread and abundance of idleness, man, it just feels like society today. And I worry, am I falling in this trap? Do I have it so easy and so good. And at the same time as I was getting this ready for this week, I got a message from somebody in the Ukraine. All right. Uh, Candace, she's got a, she's got an organization called Exodus. They sent a nurse in to go get orphans out of an orphanage that got bombed right after they were able to get them out and bring them back to, to, to where they were safe. And we talk about in the news, they talk about what's going on in Ukraine. They talk about what's happening in Afghanistan. They talk about a lot of these things, but do we notice the orphans or the strangers, the people that had kind of left and fall through the cracks.
Speaker 1 00:32:36 And so I know, I know not all of us are, are able to go in and take care of every orphan or every stranger. And I'm so grateful that the church has at the very minimum, we have fast offerings where you can skip two meals and take the money you would have spent anyway. So there's no skin off your back. You're paying the same as you would have anyways, to take care of the stranger, to take care of the poor, but maybe there's something we can do where we, we, we find an organization that's helping, or we find a way to lift. Even if we're in the comfort of our own idleness with plenty of bread, find a way to support some of these people or do something to help some of the people falling through the cracks. I guess, more on a larger scale. Is that too much? I love it. Okay. Let's keep going. Yep. That's all I've got there. Let's uh, let's move forward.
Speaker 1 00:33:27 Isaac and Rebecca follow the footprints of Abraham and Sarah extremely well. Isaac God appears to him just as he appears to Abraham and makes the same promise about his seed. Isaac digs, the same Wells that his dad had dug and builds authors and worships the Lord. You see him following his footsteps. Uh, Isaac kind of gets lost in the shuffle there a little bit, but he he's a man just like his dad. And, and then you have the same story where Rebecca and Isaac are going in and the king sees them sporting together in a way that brother and sister wouldn't be. And, and because he had had her say that he was his, she was his sister so that the people wouldn't put him to death in order to, to marry her because she was like, absolutely lovely just to Sarah was absolutely lovely.
Speaker 1 00:34:20 So you've got these guys filling the role of Abraham and Sarah to the T. And if, if Abraham was supposed to be an image of God and Christ is, is portrayed here in Isaac, you see Isaac kind of following in the footsteps of his father. And I love how they have this setup with Abraham on one end Isaac in the middle. And we're going to talk about this next Jacob, the son that's coming from from Isaac Jacob's name was changed to Israel. So if you have Israel on one hand and God, on the other hand, then who's the intermediary in between the two. Well, in this case, it's Isaac or, or Christ the one that's in between that, that, that, that, that becomes that, that connection to Israel and God. So I love the imagery there with that. Um, moving on Rebecca, her name is Hebrew for a rope with a noose. Whoa. Ooh, good luck guys. Good luck, Isaac. Whoa. And, and it's not, not necessarily the hangman's noose, but more like a snare or a trap. So who was trapping? Who was it? The servant trapping her or was she really,
Speaker 2 00:35:36 Maybe she saw those camels and already see, now we're flipping it, dude. What if she saw the camels and was like, clearly this dude has wealth. This guy has got some
Speaker 1 00:35:46 Connection. I'm going
Speaker 2 00:35:47 To work extra hard. Yeah. I'm going to work extra hard. So this dude will be like, all right, here's, here's some of my wealth,
Speaker 1 00:35:55 Maybe there's something to that with the Lord looking for Israel, but co come near to me and I will draw near to you. Maybe she was looking for,
Speaker 2 00:36:05 Well, we don't know, but yeah. You're that, that would make sense. Okay. So hangman's noose. This is, this is an air trappy snare.
Speaker 1 00:36:17 This is not a slam on wedding. Marriage is
Speaker 2 00:36:19 Marriage. Okay. I mean, or is it, I mean, what I've heard, what of her name in Hebrew was ball and chain.
Speaker 1 00:36:28 Yeah. Nope. Just rope with the news
Speaker 2 00:36:30 At worse. Okay. Let's keep going.
Speaker 1 00:36:34 All right.
Speaker 2 00:36:36 Fantastic. Great name, job, dad. Good job. Laban Laban is her brother. Good job leaving her brother. I don't know who your dad is.
Speaker 1 00:36:45 They say his name. I can't remember. I have to look it up when he plays a very minor role. Even in this case, lay Laban actually participates in, in the negotiations for this marriage. Ideally.
Speaker 2 00:36:56 Yeah. Why?
Speaker 1 00:36:59 That's a good question. I I've heard it explained that in, in some of these cases with polygamous relationships, if you had multiple wives and multiple children, the dad might not be as invested in, in the dowery and the negotiations. So a brother of the sister would kind of step in and help, help negotiate that.
Speaker 2 00:37:17 Well, we definitely have some stories later on in the, uh, old Testament where brothers of sisters that were done wrong, definitely take it upon themselves to go. And exact revenge
Speaker 1 00:37:30 Brothers were very much, yeah, very much had to watch out for their sisters and take care of them.
Speaker 2 00:37:35 Was that part of the birthright was that kind of, part of the idea that it was
Speaker 1 00:37:39 That the oldest son would get a double portion. And the reason for the double portion was to take care of any unmarried sisters or provide for them and help care for the family. So, so Laban is taking an active role. Uh, we see him more mention of him than even her father in helping this. And we will see Laban come, uh, come to play even more with Jacob when he goes over to get his two wives.
Speaker 2 00:38:01 Okay, awesome.
Speaker 1 00:38:03 So we'll get into, we'll get into labored and Jacob soon.
Speaker 2 00:38:07 Okay. So back to Rebecca, meaning hangman's noose is where we started with that.
Speaker 1 00:38:16 Yeah. I was trying to think if there was, uh, something else I wanted to throw in there.
Speaker 2 00:38:21 Okay. I mean, that's, that's interesting enough for me.
Speaker 1 00:38:25 Maybe, maybe let's just go to the twins. Okay.
Speaker 2 00:38:30 I can't wait. I've been waiting for this. So
Speaker 1 00:38:35 Isaac and Rebecca are going to have children and they, when, when she becomes with child, she becomes with two children. And, and the thing is these two children are struggling and fighting within the womb constantly, right before they're even born. And she's like, I must have two mighty nations within me. These guys are, are, are struggling. And even their birth story is just crazy because yeah, Esau was born first, but Jacob is holding onto his heel. Like you're not getting out there without me. I love this. I am born just as much as you are at the same time.
Speaker 2 00:39:20 Like we're coming out together,
Speaker 1 00:39:21 We're coming out together. This is
Speaker 2 00:39:23 This flip the story a little bit. How so? Because I mean, we're going to get into this whole birthright thing, but what if both babies come out at the exact same time?
Speaker 1 00:39:33 Well, one has to come out before and other,
Speaker 2 00:39:36 I guess what if they're all basically just one lump, what is holding onto them? What if they're in contact with each other, there's gotta be some sort of a rule for this,
Speaker 1 00:39:45 You know, it's, it's, it's, we're going to get into this even a more detailed when we get to Judah and tomorrow, because tomorrow has twins as well, but hers is even stranger because the first born technically reaches out his hand and that's highly unusual for a hand to come out first. Right. Feet, head, never a hand. And the hand comes out and they tie a Scarlet ribbon around it and saying, this one's the first. And then the hand goes back in and then the twin is born. And then the one with the Scarlet comes out seconds. Yeah. Yeah. There's, there's some, there's some significant call dibs dude.
Speaker 2 00:40:28 Call dibs on the right.
Speaker 1 00:40:30 Not me coming out first, but it's still mine.
Speaker 2 00:40:33 He put his hand out and said, dibs, this stuff. So fascinating to me. Okay. So Jacob and Esau come out at the same time
Speaker 1 00:40:44 You sell comes out slightly ahead. Now here's the weird thing we talk about Jacob and Esau. Cause those are the only two brothers we know. Right. For all intents and purposes, they are the only two sons of Isaac and Rebecca, not so, oh, there are other sons, but later, but they are never mentioned by name. And we don't know anything about them. The only way I can say with any certainty that they have other two sons is when we go to the blessing that Isaac gives them. So if I go to let's see the blessing itself, um, chapter 27 and Isaac said on to his son, okay, sorry, let me get this right. Jacob is getting the blessing and it's kind of sneaky. We'll talk about that. But in chapter 27 of Genesis, verse 29, let people serve thee and nations bow down to the be Lord over the brother in interesting.
Speaker 1 00:41:59 So brother in here is plural. If it's just him and Esau, it would be over your brother. Right? And he might look at that and say, well brother, and can also mean cousins or distant relationships. But look at the same time, are you blessing your family to rule over other families? Kids? I don't think so. I think it's directly there and the next line confirms it when he says and let die. Mother's sons bow down to the, okay. So this struggle, they only mentioned the twins because Jacob and Esau is a story about the birthright and even east Sal, when he comes back, um, he says, um, he, he kind of reaffirms the same thing to him about brothers plural, that he is. He's given him the rule over your brother in not, not just you, but your brothers as well. So, so this is a whole struggle about the birthright.
Speaker 1 00:42:59 And maybe we go into that, Jacob, the Hebrew word, Jacob means supplanter. Wow. So Rebecca from the beginning, figured that this guy was going to be taking the birthright was going to be taking his brother's spot. Why? Because, because his name from the beginning, why did she think that? Why did she, why did she assume that? I think she had a vision before she, she kind of had when she was pregnant, this inkling that this th th th there's some stories there. Okay. But it seems that from the beginning, she knew she favors Jacob where the we know she favors Jacob. Yeah. And, and it's an interesting, it's an interesting deal. And so let's get into when Abraham dies, Isaac, Jacob is preparing a bowl of lentil stew to comfort Isaac. His father at the death of Abraham and Esau comes in from the field and says, I would love that bowl of stew that you're making.
Speaker 1 00:44:13 And Jacob's like, no. And he says, Jacob says, I will give it to you in exchange for the birthright and east sales response is what does my birthright matter to me if I'm dead? So if I don't eat that bowl of lentil stew, I'm going to die. And so I lose the birthright or I can eat it and live. And, and I shouldn't have it anyways. Cause I mean, that's what Jacob's saying. Like, if I don't step in and save your life, then it's going to fall to me and I want the birthright. So why should I save you? If I'm trying to get this birthright, I'll save you in exchange for it. And logically ASAP, this makes sense to him. And he, he, he buys into the deal,
Speaker 2 00:45:00 Which is weird because that seems like you're really going to die. If you don't eat this bowl of soup,
Speaker 1 00:45:06 It seems super weird. There, there, there is a,
Speaker 2 00:45:11 Is it CA is it kind of also highlight the carelessness with which Esau considers the birthright like visually? I think, I think, I think, cause I'm just saying it's like, if you really were like, if it was a thing where you were like really understood and appreciated and respected the birth, the idea of the birthright, he'd be like, come on, man, Kimmy, the super I'm going to punch you
Speaker 1 00:45:40 Or,
Speaker 2 00:45:41 Or I'll go kill.
Speaker 1 00:45:43 I mean, that's, that's what he did. He's a hunter. He was a hunter.
Speaker 2 00:45:49 I'm just saying, it's like, there's, there's a weird disconnect there. And the only thing that I can kind of understand is that maybe he in a weird sort of way didn't deserve the birthright. You know, like maybe, maybe that's part of the,
Speaker 1 00:46:02 And that's how it's rationalized. There is, there's a story in the legends of the Jews that Nimrod, who was a mighty hunter lived at the same time. And the reason why Nimrod was a mighty hunter is because ham stole from Noah, his garment and Noah got his garments from his fathers all the way up to Adam. And it says when God made a coat of skins for Adam, the garments that he wore, it made it. So all the beasts would be subservient to him would come and bow down before him. And it gave him power over the beast. And so ham stealing, it gave it down to his line, through Kush, to down to Nimrod. And now Nimrod was a mighty hunter because he had power over the animals based off of what, what, um, what Adam was bestowed within, in, in exchange at the end of the, is his relationship with God.
Speaker 1 00:46:59 So if Nimrod had this garment that said the east Sal being a hunter was jealous of Nimrod and he was spying on him watching him. And once he saw him wander away from his guards out hunting, he went and killed Nimrod and stole the garments for himself. And then he is fleeing and Nimrod servants are pursuing him. And he comes back from this long chase and, and says, what does my life matter to me? Nimrod servants are going to kill me. That's fine. I'll uh, I'll, I'll just eat this. And when they catch me, I'll die or whatever, but somehow he ends up surviving the encounter. That's interesting. That's, that's their legend.
Speaker 1 00:47:44 And I say there, it's not, it's not that that's any it's in the book, the legends of the Jews written by Ginsburg. And, uh, it's an interesting story. It's interesting explanation, but I still don't know that it's the right one. Right. And I don't know that it quite connects, connects the dots for it either. Okay. In any case, interesting. He does sell his birthright. And this is clearly a story about birthright where none of the other children are mentioned and you have the story at the end that I think kind of pulls it all together. So let's talk about this, Rebecca, having Jacob disguise himself as east Sal to get the blessing. This is not the birthright. Okay. This is,
Speaker 2 00:48:31 That makes sense. Because I've wondered, like if he sold him the birthright,
Speaker 1 00:48:35 Why is he coming back? Why is he, why is he,
Speaker 2 00:48:37 Yeah. Why is he coming back? Not to only, not only declaim it, but like, why does Jacob have to go through all of this weird stuff to be like, Hey dad, like I have the birthright.
Speaker 1 00:48:47 Yeah. And, and the, the, the verse that kind of really makes this clear to me as verse 36, this is east Sal talking, and this is Genesis 27. And he said is not, he rightly named Jacob or supplanter for, he has supplanted me these two times first. He took away my birthright and behold, he has now taken away my blessing
Speaker 2 00:49:13 Blessing because the blessing. Okay. Cause that's, that's, I'm glad we're clarifying. Cause I've been confused about this. Yeah. Cause I was like, why does he have to steal it from him twice?
Speaker 1 00:49:23 Yeah. This is separate from the birthright. Jacob's getting the birthright. But now, and, and maybe, maybe this was his dad trying to restore kind of balance to it. If Jacob's got the birthright, then I'm going to give, eats out dominion.
Speaker 2 00:49:38 Interesting. So, so the blessing, and again, is this, is this something in tradition that may be, I don't understand. And maybe some of the people listening to this would understand, like why, why would there only be one blessing or because there's clearly not because two blessings are given in this story is this blessing. Is this the priesthood that he's being given
Speaker 1 00:50:00 The priesthood? It's, it's a blessing. And it's not that he only gives one. Um, when you look at Jacob, when he blesses his sons, he blesses all 12 of his sons and he gives them all a blessing. Lehigh gives all of his sons blessings, right. And Adam, when he pulls all of his posterity together, he gives them all a blessing before he dies. But when he comes to his dad here's thing, he had blessed Jacob that he would rule over his brother. So he's saying, what, what blessing do you want me to give you? If I've already given him dominion over you? Do I bless you to be
Speaker 2 00:50:42 Good servant? Well, it is interesting because like, you can, you can see, you can almost like here, here in the text, Esau, just being like, do you really not have anything that you can bless me? Like, is there a blessing left for me?
Speaker 1 00:50:57 And his dad gives him, I think the greatest blessing he could have given him at that
Speaker 2 00:51:03 Time in the circumstance. Yeah. He
Speaker 1 00:51:05 Gives him the greatest blessing in that you shall break the rule of your brother. I will free you from your brother. You shall, you're going to do it with force, but you're going to do it by the sword.
Speaker 2 00:51:17 You're going to do with an army,
Speaker 1 00:51:18 Which is almost like God condoning him or his father condoning him to go slay his brother. I mean, he's already
Speaker 2 00:51:25 Maybe not even necessarily slay, but to be like you, you're not going to be ruled.
Speaker 1 00:51:31 Yeah. I'll bless you to rule over your brother. Wait, I'll bless you to break that rule. And, and it's, it's balancing
Speaker 2 00:51:38 Is this, is this maybe a little bit because, um, Isaac's not thrilled that he just got duped into this.
Speaker 1 00:51:48 Well, if we believe the blessings come from God, how much of it is Isaac and how much of it is?
Speaker 2 00:51:55 I it's hard because again, like I'm, I'm only going off of what I understand from the text. But Isaac asks multiple times, is this really
Speaker 1 00:52:09 You? This, this sounds like this sounds like Jacobs. Really?
Speaker 2 00:52:13 You
Speaker 1 00:52:15 Okay. Okay.
Speaker 2 00:52:17 But I mean, is this really you though? And so there is a part of me that goes, the text would lead me to believe that Isaac was duped, man, but I don't know. Like, I'm just, what am I missing?
Speaker 1 00:52:33 Here's where I think this is the neatest story ever. And here's where this store, this story somewhat redeems itself. In my mind, I look at this as none of us are the firstborn. If we talk about God's firstborn, who is it? Jesus, Jesus, Jesus is the first born. Are any of us entitled to anything? God has
Speaker 2 00:53:00 No.
Speaker 1 00:53:00 He gets the birthright. He gets the blessing. What's left for us. What motivation is there for us to serve him? But what does the church do teaches us to be like, Christ teaches us to impersonate
Speaker 2 00:53:18 On, take on his name, his name, pray in his name. And when
Speaker 1 00:53:23 We take the sacrament, we are taking his body and internalizing it, taking his blood and internalizing it. That's the physical characteristics of him, similar to Jacob putting on first.
Speaker 2 00:53:39 Yeah. And bringing his favorite food to,
Speaker 1 00:53:43 And we're bringing cell. So we're praying that his spirit will be with us as we follow him, the spirit or the nature of his brother preparing this meat, that the attitude that we will follow him, be like him in spirit, that his spirit will be with us. And we take his name upon us where Jacob was saying, I am Esau. And only through Christ, do we then open the opportunity to be blessed as the firstborn to receive the blessings of Christ?
Speaker 2 00:54:24 A love that
Speaker 1 00:54:25 That's, that's how I see this.
Speaker 2 00:54:27 I mean, that's a fantastic perspective. I've never thought of it like that. And that's profound, but did Isaac know?
Speaker 1 00:54:37 I mean, it's such a weird story, but I look at this and, and, and it puts Easts out in a little bit different light to me. He he's strong. And, and Jacob, by holding onto his hill, by grabbing onto him, he receives the strength by, by, I don't know this. He wrestles with him, but guess who else Jacob was going to have to wrestle with as the next lesson exactly. As he's going to have to wrestle with and this struggle to receive this inheritance. But the cool thing in, in Christ at the end is you will be co inheritors with me. Then this idea that he is not going to rule over us, we're not going to rule over him. He is going to break our bondage. We're not going to be subjected anymore that maybe we should have to rule under our brother or maybe he should, but he's going to break that. When he came here on earth, we tried to rule over him. We threw him in jail. We whipped him, we beat him and he broke that bondage and freed himself. And subsequently we should all have to be underneath him. He should have dominion over us, but he breaks that bondage that we can be heirs of our father.
Speaker 2 00:55:58 And it's by us taking upon his name and his likeness and his, those things like you just got done saying,
Speaker 1 00:56:06 And, and I know it's not in this lesson, but I don't know that there are many stories in the Bible sweeter than when Jacob and Esau reconcile.
Speaker 2 00:56:16 We have the old Testament stories that I'm familiar with. It's, it's, it's truly one of my favorite stories if my favorite story in the old Testament. Yeah. And it's interesting too. I mean, do, do we want to get into it? We can, because I think it's important. Let's go for it, Jacob, when he, so, so we've, so Jacob has usurped his brother twice now once by faking and deceiving his dad. I mean, through, through like deception and dishonesty, I mean, as Anna and again, even in the text again, when his dad's asking him multiple occasions, it's funny because I think that the first few times, and I can't, I, I, I need to just double check, but I remember Jacob not even having to necessarily answer one way or the other and just kid kind of like let his data sume that it was Esau. But then finally he gets asked point blank. It's an interesting moment for Jacob.
Speaker 1 00:57:29 We've been in that situation where we don't want to lie, but when it comes down to it,
Speaker 2 00:57:33 When you get asked point blank, he lies straight up. Yes. I'm Esau. Right? Okay. Whoa. Okay. From there. So he gets the birthright, his family grows, you know what I mean? It's like, he, he, he has this wealth or whatever eats out at the same time as also growing in his nation is, is becoming very powerful and liking his blessing is, is, uh, as an army at this point. Yeah. And, and it's interesting. So, so, and again, correct me where I'm wrong with this, but this is what I love about it. And that is, he sells out at the front of his army. Yes. Where's Jacob, the back
Speaker 1 00:58:21 In fact, he's dividing his family up in different sections, just in case one of his divisions gets destroyed. Not all of his family is going to perish.
Speaker 2 00:58:31 And who does he put in front of him? Even between him and his brother, the women that's right. He's like, he's, he's almost, it's almost a, Hey look at all of your family that you would have to kill to kill me first. You know what I mean? Like it's like, it's almost like, please, you couldn't possibly kill all of these women and children, but dude, at the same time, it's like, Jacob, that's kinda messed up, man.
Speaker 1 00:59:01 Well, he brought him a lot of gifts too. He said, he said, totally,
Speaker 2 00:59:04 My whole thing is, is now go back to your symbolism in that relationship who was wronged in this relationship, Esau was wronged in this relationship. Right. Esau for, for the whole birthright thing. Let's let's that because again, like that's just it's I don't, I wish I knew every little detail, but it still doesn't quite make total sense to me the blessing thing. Now that you've explained it, this is like, no, that's just east Sal being done dirty. Jacob has benefited so much from, from the deception. Like it worked. It's like, there's part of you. That's like, go be a man. You go to the front of that army, Jacob and you accept it. And he eventually does. I mean, he eventually goes up there pleads at the feet of his brother. You know what I mean? I'm sorry. Here's some gifts. Look at all this family of mine, whatever. And what is Easter house who by the way is probably fully justified to do what you just said. His dad told him, which is, Hey, you're not going to be ruled by your brother. And what does he sound do?
Speaker 1 01:00:16 Stand up and loves him,
Speaker 2 01:00:17 Embraces him.
Speaker 1 01:00:24 It's a powerful story. It's a very powerful story.
Speaker 2 01:00:28 And then go back to that relationship that you're, that you just got done explaining is like, now, now put those players in their place. Where are we?
Speaker 1 01:00:38 How are we going to gravel at the feet of Christ for the site, the pain and bathe his feet with our tears because we've wronged him. And he suffered on our behalf and he embraces us. And Jacob, we're going to see his name changed, becomes Israel, which is symbolic of all of us. It's a powerful story. There's also an important distinction. I think with, with being born first versus receiving the first born, this is something that we see play out throughout the scriptures. We've already seen it happen a few times and we're going to see it play out even more as we move forward, Cain was the first born, but he doesn't receive the firstborn privileges if you will. Uh, when you get down to ham with his sons, sham j-pin and ham sham is not the first born, but he still gets elevated to this firstborn privilege.
Speaker 1 01:01:46 Now you take Abraham's sons, Ishmael, and Isaac Ishmael is the first born yet. Isaac becomes the favored one. If you will, now we're having it with Esau and Jacob, we're going to have it when we get to Jacob's sons, Joseph isn't the first born you've got firstborns ahead of him. When Joseph has his two sons Ephraim and Manasseh, his father intentionally switches, hands and blesses the younger one with the first born privileges, a firstborn blessing. And even in the book of Mormon, you see, Neefa kind of take this and receive this, this firstborn privilege and rule over his family, if you will. And so I think there's a balance here between the law that stating that this is what must happen with the firstborn, that this is the blessing that this is the birthright, that this is what comes with this territory. And yet being born into privilege, as Christ says, in the new Testament, you claim Abraham as your father, but I can take these stones and raise seed up to Abraham.
Speaker 1 01:02:54 Then there's something to be being said about not necessarily being born into it, but still being able to receive it. It's not just by your birth alone. Nobody has it made. Nobody has it easy. And, and look at what Jacob had to do wrestling with east Sal from the very beginning in the womb and grabbing that hill and that fight in that struggle and everything that he did to finally claim it. It's something that we should want and strive for. And birth doesn't entitle us to anything just because we're born in a covenant or just because we're born in Israel means nothing. If you don't combine that with the effort with the work that comes with it as well. And along those notes, east Sao Mary's outside of who his parents want him to marry, right? They, they, they send this the servant to go all the way to the land of their fathers to get Rebecca and bring her in for Isaac as Abraham had done.
Speaker 1 01:03:59 And now Isaac and Rebecca are upset because east Sal goes and marries a woman from Egypt. Jacob's going to go back to the land and get a wife from, from Laban. In fact, two wives, as we know the story goes. And so east sounds kind of put in this negative light for marrying outside. And we keep having this with Ishmael, this outsider, that kind of drifts away from the family east, Sal, this outsider that marries at different wife. I almost want to take this comparison now, as we've been talking about being born versus earning this privilege and compare this to the Jews and the Gentiles, that's exactly where I was going with it. Keep going. Yeah, we, God comes and Christ tells the Gentiles. This is not for you. Write to the woman who says, teach me. And he says, I've come to teach Israel.
Speaker 1 01:04:57 And she says, even the dogs get crumbs off the floor of the table, right? And eventually it's going to come to the point where the gospel does switch from the house of Israel and goes to the Gentiles. And now the church is going to become so full that the ropes are breaking because they've caught so many fish, so many converts coming into the gospel of these Gentiles. And this is going to be a very Gentile religion. Christianity is going to spread and grow among the Gentiles and prosper. We've got to remember, Abraham did not receive the priesthood from his fathers. He received it from an outsider named Mel .
Speaker 1 01:05:40 Moses did not receive the priesthood from the lineage of his fathers. He received it from an outsider named Jethro, and God has said other sheep I have, which are not of this fold and going and taking this outside wife and these relationships that he has with these other countries. And these other covenants, we focus on hyper-focus on Israel and put them up on a pedestal. But over and over again, we're going to see this throughout the old Testament. This year, God loves the Gentiles and is constantly pulling them in as the house of Israel goes astray. And there is this counterbalance between the Gentiles and Israel. That's going to be interplaying throughout the year.
Speaker 2 01:06:30 Awesome. I love it. Anything else we got for this week?
Speaker 1 01:06:34 I, I think that, I think that about wraps
Speaker 2 01:06:37 It up for love it. Great, great work as always Jason I'm, I'm stoked that we just get to let you loose, get that we just, we get to, uh, let you loose on your playground. I love the older you've
Speaker 1 01:06:48 Been. You've been really well. Uh,
Speaker 2 01:06:51 And we appreciate it, Jason. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Uh, what are we talking about next week?
Speaker 1 01:06:55 Next week we get into Jacob Israel.
Speaker 2 01:06:58 Can't wait. Um, all right, again, thank you everybody for your help in supporting us, get, get on some various distribution channels are, are listening numbers tripled this week. So yeah. Thank you guys. And thank you to the come follow me app for adding us on there and featuring us on there. And hopefully we can keep delivering good content for you guys. And, and, uh, we always appreciate any comments or questions. We try to do what we can. Um, but if that's it, I guess, uh, until next week
