D&C 88 (2020 Repost)

August 13, 2025 01:05:22
D&C 88 (2020 Repost)
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D&C 88 (2020 Repost)

Aug 13 2025 | 01:05:22

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In this week’s dive into D&C 88, Jason and Nate examine the title, Lord of Sabaoth. Not Sabbath, Sabaoth. Next, they examine the phrase, alms of your prayers as a critical part of receiving the Second Comforter. Jason takes another look at light. This time, examining it’s life giving properties. Jason then looks at God as the Crown of Glory for the Celestial Kingdom. Around this point, Nate sets Jason off on a tangent exploring Kolob and Greek Astronomy. When Nate asks why Sirius was such a bright star, Jason meant to say part of the reason was its proximity …
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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:15] Speaker B: Welcome to the weekly Deep Dive podcast on the Add On Education Network. The podcast where we take the weekly Come follow me discussion and try to add a little insight and unique perspective. I am your host, Jason Lloyd, here with me in the studio, my friend and this show's producer, Nate Pifer. [00:00:31] Speaker A: What is up? [00:00:32] Speaker B: Hey, Nate. It's good to see you again. [00:00:34] Speaker A: Good to see you too, buddy. [00:00:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Do you have a good week? [00:00:37] Speaker A: I've been working till who knows what hours every day this week and for the last 10 years of my life. [00:00:44] Speaker B: It's. It's a busy life, but I love it. Hey, I'm glad you make time for us, though, dude. [00:00:50] Speaker A: Time for us, dude. You know. You know, I'm always making time for us. [00:00:53] Speaker B: It's good. Well, in this week, we're diving into one of my favorite sections in Doctrine and Covenants. I don't even know if I will be able to even come close to doing it justice, but it is Doctrine and Covenants, Section 88. If I were to say one big takeaway from the section or why I like it so much is I feel like this section gives us a good idea as to what it takes to see God. And we have talked about this in previous episodes, but that is something that I've always wanted to chase, to experience, to see, just, I don't know, something. Something powerful about that. So this section really resonates with me. But at the same time, this section is huge. It covers several pages. Just flipping to the end to get a count on the verse. Count here. 141 verses. [00:01:50] Speaker A: Wow. [00:01:51] Speaker B: So there's no way we're going to get to everything or cover everything or be able to really give this section do justice. So if there's. If there's one section that you should really take time and dive into and read to get a good amount of appreciation for it, it's definitely. This one will do. Okay, so starting us off. Verse 1, Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you who have assembled yourselves together to receive his will concerning you. And. And so many times this has been the context for receiving these revelations. You gather together to see what the Lord wants you to do, and then the Lord gives you this revelation. And two is where I really want to start hitting this off. Behold, this is pleasing unto your Lord, and the angels rejoice over you the alms of your prayers. And that's a phrase I want to come back to. The alms of your prayers have come up unto the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth. And that right There, Sabaoth, S a B A O T H. And I think if we're just reading Doctrine Covenants quickly and not paying attention, this is an easy thing to miss because we might just look at it and say, oh, the Lord of Sabbath. Oh, he's the Lord of the Sabbath day, or he likes the Sabbath day. That's not what it's saying, Sabaoth, S a B A O T H. And that is is not a word I expect many people to be familiar with. If you look at the footnote, I think it gives you a little bit of a clue. Let's see two scrolling down. See, it doesn't even define it down here. It just gives you references to where you can find that word. And is that a word? I wish I could just ask the audience, Sabaoth, Sabaoth. Have you ever heard of it before? [00:03:38] Speaker A: I mean, it sounds like Sabbath. [00:03:40] Speaker B: It does sound like Sabbath. [00:03:41] Speaker A: That's all I got. That's all I got. [00:03:43] Speaker B: Okay. It's a Hebrew word that shows up in English and. Oh, yeah, yeah. Saba means host and Sabaot. So we've talked about this. In Hebrew, the im ending is the masculine plural ending. Urim, Thummim, have that, I am, cherubim. Those are all masculine plural endings. Lights, perfections, cherubs, whatever the case may be. But the Oth that we see here is the feminine plural ending. So sabaoth means host, plural hosts with an S. Hosts. And it's not like a number of hosts, like the Lord of people that host parties. When we're saying host in the Hebrew, Tsaba specifically is referencing armies. And so the army of Israel was called the host of Israel, and the hosts of Israel would reference all of these different armies. And specifically, Saba is an organizational unit, like a structured. That's why oftentimes it refers to the military, this structured, organized unit, but multiple units. And so Lord of hosts is almost like a military title to say the captain of the armies. But more so what I find interesting here, when he says hosts, hosts can refer to any large multitude that's organized in a way and where it's not just a single host, but hosts plural. It gives me hope because it's saying that the Lord of a multitude, his multitude. Go back to where we see this in the Old Testament, when they are going and they are surrounded by their enemies on all sides. Who is it, Elijah or Elisha? He has got his servant there next to him, and he is worried about all of these guys that are coming to fight them and slay them. And he opens up his eyes to see all of the chariots and spiritual armies, and he says, don't worry. There are more that are for us than against us. [00:05:51] Speaker A: A good one. [00:05:52] Speaker B: Yeah. And so when we think of the Lord of hosts, I think a lot of times the mindset or the mentality that we have is that the amount of people that are going to be saved, that are going to be with God is this pitifully small number. Right. These are the handful of people that actually deserve to be in God's presence. But everyone else, the numberless people in the telestial kingdom, more numerous than the stars. They're all the rejects. There's more rejects than not. But I think the Lord taking this title is showing us there are more for us than against us. The day will come when everyone will see eye to eye, when every knee shall bow, every tongue confess. The Lord's not interested in just saving one or two people despite the rest of creation. He's interested in saving all of his creation. So this name for me is powerful. It's the Lord of hosts. It might seem like it's us against the world, but there are more for us than against us. It just. We don't see that. We don't perceive that. And the Lord's giving us some confidence. Be diligent, overcome the world, and you'll find out. What was unpopular becomes popular. There are a lot of people that are rallying around the Lord, and it's not just a few people. So I find comfort in that title. [00:07:11] Speaker A: Love it. [00:07:12] Speaker B: Okay, coming back to the phrase the alms of your prayers and alms is something associated with the poor, right? Alms for the poor. If I hear that phrase, alms for the poor, it takes me back to that animated Robin Hood baby, right? [00:07:29] Speaker A: I already knew. I already knew that's where we were going. [00:07:31] Speaker B: Dude, that's one of my favorite Disney movies. [00:07:34] Speaker A: I like record. I like it. There's a. There's a little bit of the take from the rich to give to the poor that I've always had a little bit of an issue with. But, you know. [00:07:45] Speaker B: Yeah, but, you know, you got. You got the blind. He's pretending to be a blind beggar Robin Hood around with his little cup. [00:07:52] Speaker A: Clearly, there's tyranny at the time. Like, you know what I mean? [00:07:55] Speaker B: Definitely tyranny. [00:07:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:56] Speaker B: All right. But so going back to define alms is this idea that it's something that's given to try to alleviate the need of the poor, right? [00:08:06] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:08:07] Speaker B: So when you're associating this not with alms of money, but alms of prayer. This makes me think of the prayers that are offered to help the downtrodden, to help those that are struggling. And so think about that phrase, your alms, the alms of your prayers have come into the ears of the Lord, because I think this is key. And are recorded in the book of the names of the sanctified, even them of the celestial world. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Your prayers are being recorded in the book of the names of the sanctified, even those of the celestial world. And you have to imagine it's not just that your prayers for the poor, your alms prayers, but if it's being recorded in a book of names, it's the names of the people that are offering those prayers that are being recorded in the book of those who go to the celestial kingdom. So if you're curious, curious about those who go to the celestial kingdom or what it takes to get to the celestial kingdom, I think here we're getting this critical key that those who are offering prayers that are alms for the poor, that care enough about those who are struggling that they pour their heart and soul into a prayer. There's a key to that. And it says, wherefore, verse three, I now send upon you another comforter, even upon my friends, that it may abide in your hearts, even the Holy Spirit of promise, which other comforter is the same that I promised unto my disciples as recorded in the testimony of John. This comforter is the promise which I give unto you of eternal life, even the glory of the celestial kingdom. So here we have it stated. One, your name is recorded in the list of names of those who inherit the celestial kingdom. Two, you get the second comforter. And then three, the comforter is the promise of that kingdom of glory. And so this is calling of election made sure. And second comforter. I think most of us are familiar with that phrase. That name, the second comforter, is defined by Joseph Smith, is a personal wish witness, a personal visit of Christ. He comes and you see him to see God. And what does it take to get your list in that name or your name in that list of people who get to see God, who have the calling, election made sure, who get to go to the celestial kingdom. It's very simple. It's the alms of your prayers. And I want to show you this pattern. Lehi sees the Lord, a pillar of fire comes and dwells upon a rock. Before him he sees God. And not only that that's followed up with the vision where he sees God sitting on his throne surrounded with numerous concourses of angels. And he sees one descending from the midst that gives him a book. What was he doing in order to receive that second comforter? You go to the first chapter of Nephi, chapter one, that says, and it came to pass that my father Lehi, as he went forth, prayed unto the Lord, yea, even with all of his heart on behalf of his people. So what was it that did it for him? The alms of his prayers was what got his name recorded in the celestial records and got him a personal visit from Jesus Christ. Go to Enoch. Sorry, not Enoch. Enos. Right. As he's hunting in the wilderness. And this one's interesting to me because it's not necessarily that the alms of your prayer have to be for somebody else. What started Enos prayer that gave him that profound experience was his own soul hungered. The alms of his prayer were in behalf of himself as a poor person who felt like he was struggling, that he needed the Spirit. And as he prayed, the alms of his prayers granted him the presence of God to have that conversation. And immediately what did he turn to? Is as soon as he had received that promise, that second comforter, that you will have eternal life, the calling of election made sure he turns to the rest of the Nephites and he turns to the Lamanites. So what is the pattern that you are seeing laid out here in Doctrine and Covenants and played over with Lehi, with Enos, and I am sure you can think of other examples is as our hearts turn to the welfare of souls and we are so stirred and moved that we are offering these alms to me. That is the key that opens the door. And if I were to name one more person, Job. Right. What was Job doing right before everything went south on him? Offering offerings for his kids just in case they forgot to offer them or they missed something. He was pouring his soul out to try to help those around him. And really all of this comes back to Christ, stated it so simply and yet so profoundly. What are the great commandments? First, love the Lord your God, and the second, like unto it, love your neighbor. Really, if you loved yourself, you loved your neighbor, you loved God. I think it drives us to these prayers. And these prayers are what bring us closer to him. And I think that's the driving message in doctrine and Covenants 88. Started off just right off the beginning. Okay, any other thoughts before I move past that? [00:13:59] Speaker A: No, man, let's Keep going. Covered it well. [00:14:02] Speaker B: Okay. Which glory is that of the Church of the firstborn? Even God, the holiest of all, through Jesus Christ. And they talk a little bit about that. We're going to skip. Let's see. Let's follow this along a little bit more for a discussion on light. I know we've talked about light, but we're going to hit light from a different angle today. He that ascendeth upon high, also he that descended below all things, and that he comprehendeth all things, that he might be in all and through all the light of truth and the fact that he ascended above everything, there's no doubt he is God. He's at the top. But how did he descend below all things? And his life plays that very beautifully. Right when he's born, he's born in a manger where animals are supposed to be born. Pretty low. And we talked a little bit about this last week. Natives. We were just kind of hanging out afterwards. In archaeology in Israel, all the houses, there were two story houses and they had garages, if you will. That's what we would call them, I guess. And the garage is where they kept the animals on the ground level, and then the master bedroom or the guest bedroom. And so there was no inn. When you go and talk about the innkeeper in the New Testament, no room in the inn. It was the guest room upstairs. There was no inn. There was no hotels in Israel. It was the guest room in the family residence. So when Joseph and Mary show up, they already had family staying in the guest room above. No room in the inn. So they had to go to where they kept the animals in the stables. Now, the system, they didn't have sewer systems like we have today. So one of the chores that they would give their kids or whoever, is that the upstairs guest room and the master room, they had holes in the floor for a bathroom. And you'd go down to the bathroom and it would drop into the garage. The garage was lined with hay and straw. The animals would go to the bathroom and the hay and the straw. So you would use the hay and the straw to gather up all of the dung, the waste, and then you would take it out to the compost pile, the dung heap out outside of the city, outside of the town, or wherever it goes, and then replace it with fresh hay, fresh straw. So if you want to talk about humble beginnings, one that descended below all things, he is the king, the creator, the God that created the whole earth, and yet he was born in a bathroom where literally human waste and excrement is, is stored and created. And you talk about one end of society where you have the wise men, the Magi coming and bringing expensive gifts, as him that ascendeth below or above all things. But then he that descended below all you had the outcast of society, the shepherds, the ones that weren't always trusted, that had the hard work, they were the opposite end of the spectrum. So in everything in his life, it typified this idea that he would descend below all. He was the word, the nothing, the everything. But yet he would encompass the greatest, the best of everything. His whole life portrayed this mission that he might, and I love how it's stated here, he might be in all and through all things, the light of truth, which truth shineth. This is the light of Christ, as also he is in the sun and the light of the sun and the power thereof by which it was made, as also the light of the stars and the power thereof by which they were made, and the earth also, and the power thereof, even the earth upon which you stand, and the light which shineth, which giveth you light, is through him who enlighteneth your eyes, which is the same understanding that quickeneth your understanding. Then the point is he is in all. No matter where you are on the spectrum, if you are like the sun is bright shining, or more kind of like the moon reflecting this light, or, or a little bit more distant or where you are on your journey or in life, or however the case may. [00:18:15] Speaker A: Be. [00:18:18] Speaker B: He is there through all things. He covers the extremes, the alpha, the omega, in all things. I don't know. It's powerful. And we think of light as a source of truth because we've talked about this. As we don't see objects, we see light reflecting off the objects. It's through the light that we get to know a lot of the world around us. But there's also another aspect of light I wanted to cover here. And then verse 13, it says, the light which is in all things, which giveth life to all things. That phrase giveth life? Does the light actually give us life? I understand that the light allows us to see, but could we survive without light? How does light give us life? And that's, that's one I wish I could just discuss with you guys, ask that question. Have you, you know, any, any suggestions? And, and it might not seem obvious at first, but as you think about it, our life is sustained by light. And where do we get the, the food, the energy that it takes to, for us to live? We have to eat. Right. And it doesn't matter if you're only eating plants as a vegetation based diet. Plant based diet, or meat based, or both based. If you're eating plants, then your source of energy is coming from the life of the plants, which was created through the light of the sun. [00:19:58] Speaker A: I was going to say photosynthesis. [00:20:00] Speaker B: Photosynthesis would be correct. Yeah. And if you say, well, I don't eat stuff that photosynthesizes. I eat beef, I eat cows. [00:20:10] Speaker A: Oh, but they eat plants. [00:20:11] Speaker B: But they eat plants. Photosynthesis, all of the energy that sustains life here on Earth. Almost all. There are a few teeny exceptions. Your chemo trophs, are those the things. [00:20:25] Speaker A: That live at the bottom of the ocean? [00:20:26] Speaker B: Yeah. They live in. They live in extreme environments. They live next to volcano vents, volcanic areas, deep in the ocean. [00:20:37] Speaker A: In some areas they're still getting something down there. Right. [00:20:40] Speaker B: And they're creating energy through chemical reactions. But they're not, I would say they're not a huge significant portion of the food chain. I would say more than 90% of all life here on Earth is sustained through light, either directly or indirectly. And that's. If we didn't have light, we couldn't have oxygen, we couldn't have food, we couldn't have anything. Light is what sustains life here on Earth. [00:21:08] Speaker A: And it would just suck. [00:21:09] Speaker B: It would suck living in darkness. [00:21:11] Speaker A: It would just suck not being able to see anything. [00:21:13] Speaker B: Yeah. So not only is light allowing us to know everything, to see, to become familiar with the world around us using our senses, but light also gives us life in the form of energy as this photosynthesis process, as the light drives oxygen production and life here on Earth as we know it. All right, next up, talking about the earth and also the spirit and the body of man. So verse 15. The spirit and the body are the soul of man, which is kind of this important teaching that Joseph Smith teaches that we need a body, but we also need a spirit. We came here to receive a body, we're going to lose that body, but they're going to be reunited. This idea of redemption, redemption and atonement takes on some extra significance there. But I want to focus in on something else as they're talking verse 17. And the redemption of the soul is through him that quickeneth all things and whose bosom is decreed that the poor and the meek of the earth shall inherit it. And that might surprise some people that think that they are going to inherit the earth. But it's really, it is the poor in spirit the ones that have been broken down, the ones that have been humbled, the ones that maybe don't think of themselves as worthy. Because if you think you're the one that's worthy to inherit it, did you cross the line? Now all of a sudden you're proudful instead of meek instead of lonely. Sometimes the most humble. These people that he's talking about are the people that are broken, that say, I am not worthy. I can approach God. They really feel that humility. But, sorry, I digress a little bit. Getting to where I wanted to talk about this idea of redemption and in the celestial kingdom, because the Lord's going to talk about the earth receiving its celestial glory. It says in verse 19, for after it hath filled the measure of its creation, it shall be crowned with glory. And crown is something that you wear like clothing, right? And so you're going to be crowned with glory even with the presence of God the Father. So glory here is defined as the presence of God the Father. And the presence or being able to see God or be in the presence of God is defined as being able to wear a crown. And what I wanted to focus on this verse is when we were talking a couple episodes back, we went to the words of Isaiah. When Isaiah said that the Lord stripped the proud and the mighty, the prophet and the priest, the leaders, and all of the people that were supposed to be guiding Israel, he stripped them and then he made a comparison. So first he wipes them out of the land and kills them with the invasion of the Babylonians. But then he makes the comparison to a woman with all of her tinkling and sounding brass and all of her fancy things. And he talks about Israel almost being like a woman that is stripped naked in the dust and humiliated. She has lost all of her clothes. And her clothes were all of these people that were supposed to be giving her glory that the people are the clothing of Israel. Well, here you have God. That's not just the clothing, but the crown, the most significant part of the clothing. Here, Israel is going to be crowned with the presence of God. He is the crown of Israel. [00:24:33] Speaker A: I have a question. [00:24:34] Speaker B: Shoot. [00:24:36] Speaker A: What's going to happen to Kolob when the earth becomes the celestial kingdom and heavenly Father hangs out here instead? [00:24:42] Speaker B: That's a good question. [00:24:44] Speaker A: I mean, are we just leaving Kolob behind forever? [00:24:47] Speaker B: Is Kolob where God lives? [00:24:50] Speaker A: Is Kolob a state of being or is it an actual place? Man, I don't know. [00:24:58] Speaker B: Because if I remember right on Kolob. [00:25:01] Speaker A: Did you ever hide There it was. [00:25:03] Speaker B: The star nearest to God, right? Okay, so if God is not necessarily on Kolob, but that's the one that's nearest to where he resides. So if you could hide a kolob and from there continue onward. So where does God reside? And what is Kolob? Do you want to go down this road? [00:25:26] Speaker A: Of course I want to go down this road. What about me makes you think that I don't want to go down this road? [00:25:34] Speaker B: You've done it again, Nate. All right, here we go. [00:25:37] Speaker A: Let's go. [00:25:40] Speaker B: In Hebrew, as I've said, ancient Hebrew, they didn't write with vowels. They just had the letters, right? So kolob, K, L, B. And in Hebrew, that is also the same word for dog. Okay. Okay. So stick with me. [00:26:02] Speaker A: I'm with you, baby. [00:26:04] Speaker B: And maybe there's something to this man's best friend is a dog. And God's best, you know, the closest to him is this dog star. So stay with me. We have a dog star in the heavens. We have a constellation of a dog, right? And it happens to be the brightest star in all of the sky. It's. It's more than twice as bright as the next brightest star. It's the closest one to us. And. And it's named the dog star, or in Hebrew, Kolob. Is that. I don't know. [00:26:55] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:26:56] Speaker B: It's kind of interesting. It's. It's best friend, man and God's best friend. [00:27:06] Speaker A: It's, you know, dogs go to heaven. [00:27:08] Speaker B: It's. It's called serious. You've heard Sirius before, right? Harry Potter. [00:27:15] Speaker A: That's. I was gonna say is in Harry Potter. Yeah. [00:27:16] Speaker B: Mm. Yeah, the dog star. So the dog star Kolob is. Sirius is what we refer to it as super bright star. It's actually two stars close together. When I look at it at night when I'm running, it's kind of cool because it's following Orion. So you've got Orion, the constellation, and then right behind him, Orion the hunter. You have the do. [00:27:35] Speaker A: Dog, Orion's best friend, dude. [00:27:37] Speaker B: Orion's best friend. And so here you have this bright, serious star, and I. I don't know if it's Kolob or not, but that. [00:27:44] Speaker A: Would be dope if it is. [00:27:45] Speaker B: But it is kind of cool that the brightest star in the sky is. Is a dog star. And in Hebrew, the. The word for dog is Caleb. So sorry, Caleb, but Kolob, it's the same. It's the same root. It's the same word that the dog star could potentially be. [00:28:03] Speaker A: I love it. [00:28:03] Speaker B: Collab. I love it. [00:28:06] Speaker A: See, this is why we go here, Jason. This is why. [00:28:11] Speaker B: Yeah, but it's all. It's all. Who knows, man? I mean. [00:28:17] Speaker A: Okay, let's keep going. [00:28:18] Speaker B: All right, but if you. Now, now, now you've done it, Nate. Now you've opened a can of worms. [00:28:25] Speaker A: Let's go. [00:28:26] Speaker B: If you want to go down to astronomy and the names of these constellations, if you turn to the book of Abraham and the pearl of great price, you have a facsillomy that shows Pharaoh holding his throne, sitting on the throne. And they say it's Abraham sitting on Pharaoh's throne, teaching them about astronomy. Correct. So modern astrophysicists today, as they look at the history of astronomy and where we get our understanding from, a lot of the Western world's knowledge and understanding of the stars comes from the Greeks. So you look at these names, Sirius, Orion, and these constellations, they come from Greek mythology. Correct. And then the question is asked, where did the Greeks get it from? The Greeks got it from the Egyptians, who got it from the Babylonians. And so, according to modern astronomy, the knowledge all came from the Chaldeans, the land of Abraham. That's where we get our understanding of the stars. So when you have this dog star, it is kind of interesting that that gets preserved. There's one other constant, I mean, Virgo. We talked about Virgo, I think, last week. She's carrying a branch. The branch is the name of Christ. And so that Christ would come from. A virgin is born out in the Greek astronomy. And then another one with Centaurus, it's one of the most fascinating. [00:29:54] Speaker A: Is that the bull guy? [00:29:56] Speaker B: That's the bull guy. And I'm glad that you said bull guy, because a lot of people think centaur is half man, half horse. Right. [00:30:06] Speaker A: I don't. I know. [00:30:09] Speaker B: Because Taurus, toro, it's bulls. It's what you say, the bull. Right. And so if you say Centauros or in the Greek, Kentaros, Kent means to pierce. Tauros is the bull, and Kentauros then is the bull that is pierced. And bull was a symbol of God. You saw the golden calf when Moses was ascending up into Mount Sinai, and he comes back down and he's upset because they're building these calves. Later on, when Israel splits into two kingdoms, the northern kingdom and the southern kingdom, the north is afraid that they have to go to Jerusalem to worship at the temple. And so that they would reunite the country and they would lose their kingship. So they dedicate bulls to worship in Israel that were supposed to be images of Jehovah. He was the bull and sometimes the akir ya' in Hebrew, the bull of Jacob is translated sometimes as bull of Jacob, which is in English, as we read the Bible, the God of Jacob. So bull was very much associated with Jehovah in. And you see the temple, the baptismal font that is placed on the back of the bulls. So this idea that a bowl that would be pierced, half man, half bull, and this imagery of a God, half God, half man, is going to be pierced and lifted up right between the legs of Centaurus, you've got your front legs, you've got your back legs is the southern cross. So the bowl in the sky is lifted on a cross. And the cool thing too is this constellation is right at the center of the Earth. And by center, I mean it's one of the only constellations that you can see in the northern hemisphere and the southern hemisphere. In the northern hemisphere, you see the man and it disappears in the winter, the time of death, and renews itself every spring as this idea of death and resurrection. This constellation that seems to be talking about a bull that would be pierced. And in Greek mythology, this relates to Chiron. And who is Chiron? He is this healer, this teacher. He was immortal. He was half. Half man, half horse. And I think that somewhere along the line, bull switches to horse because the neighboring civilizations, the Greeks, did not ride horses, but the. Who were they? They introduced this idea. They would come and destroy the Greeks riding on horses. And they thought it was so fearsome and terrible that the Centauros kind of developed or twisted into a half man, half horse because of these invading armies, the Mycenaeans. In any case, Chiron the centaur, if you will, is immortal. But you have Prometheus, who's bound from stealing knowledge from the gods, the knowledge of fire, and he is bound forever tortured, because he stole knowledge from the gods. And I think of Adam, who is stealing knowledge by taking of the fruit of the tree of Knowledge of good and evil, taking knowledge from the gods, who is forever now cast out because of what he's done. Well, Chiron, who is pierced, takes his immortality and gives it to liberate Prometheus so that he can be free. So here you have this, this image of a pierced bull who gives his life to set man free and put things right. So there's a lot of interesting things about the constellations, the Greek mythology, that it's not perfect. It doesn't always sync up. It doesn't always match, but it's just kind of cool to see these. The Dog Star or the Centaurus or the Virgo or whatever the case may be. And just wonder, did this stray somewhere along the line from some understood truth where the stars testified of the divine mission of Jesus Christ? [00:34:16] Speaker A: This has been my favorite episode ever, just because of that. I love this stuff, man. I live for this. [00:34:24] Speaker B: It's not that I can conclusively state anything, but it is fun to kind of look at some of these things. [00:34:30] Speaker A: So rad. [00:34:31] Speaker B: I just wonder. Right? [00:34:33] Speaker A: So good. [00:34:34] Speaker B: Well. And it fits really well with this next verse when we talk about. I'm just going to skip forward a little bit. Verse 47. Behold. Well, let me behold. All these are kingdoms, and any man who has seen any or the least of these hath seen God moving in his majesty and power. And when I say these kingdoms, I have to back up a little bit. Verse 42. And again, verily I say unto you, he hath given Allah unto all things by which they move in their times and their seasons, and their courses are fixed, even the courses of the heavens and the Earth, which comprehendeth the earth and all the planets, and they give light to each other in their times and in their seasons, and in their minutes, and in their hours, and in their days, in their weeks, in their months, in their years, all of these one year with God, but not with man. The earth rolls upon her wings, and the sun giveth his light by day, and the moon giveth her light by night, and the suns. Excuse me. And the stars also give their light as they roll upon their wings in their glory in the midst of the power of God. Behold, all these are kingdoms, and any man who hath seen any of these, any of the least of these, hath seen God moving in his majesty and power. And I just want to. I want to take that with what Isaac Newton said, if I can. Here we go. What is there in place, almost empty of matter? And whence is the sun and planets gravitate towards one another without dense matter between them? Whence is it that nature doth arise in vain? And whence arises all that order and beauty which we see in the world? Does it not appear from phenomena that there is a being, incorporeal, living, intelligent, omnipresent, who in infinite space, as it were in his sensory, sees the things themselves intimately and thoroughly, perceives them, and comprehendeth them wholly by their immediate presence to himself? Isaac Newton believed that by studying the motion of the planets and learning about gravity and the Light and how it works, that he was seeing God. And he is often attributed to a quote. I haven't been able to verify the quote, but he said attributed to him. Anyone who thinks half heartedly wouldn't believe in God. But anyone who thinks full heartedly has to admit that there is God. And a lot of these early scientists, their whole push was they believed it was an acceptable form of worship. By admiring and seeing these kingdoms and understanding the order by which they were ruled. And that that was what got you close to God, that was what got you into his presence. By understanding the law, the nature and how this worked, and the order to the universe, how everything has to be so perfect. The distance between the earth and the sun, the atmospheric composition, the gravity, the size of the planet, the water, the different. Everything has to be so orderly, so perfect, so organized. And that's what a lot of this king, this section is about, talking about law and order. So if I go back when he talks about those who die and he says in verse 28, they who are of a celestial spirit shall receive the same body which was a natural body. Even ye shall receive your bodies and your glory. They shall be quickened by the bodies are quickened. And you shall receive a portion of the celestial glory. Next part. They who are quickened by a portion of the terrestrial glory shall receive of the same. They are quickened by a portion of the telestial shall receive of the same. And in verse 36, all kingdoms have a law given. For there are many kingdoms. For there is no space in which there is no kingdom. And there is no kingdom in which there is no space, either a greater or a lesser kingdom. And unto every kingdom is given a law. And unto every law there are certain bounds also and conditions. All beings who abide not in these conditions are not justified. We become justified, redeemed by the Spirit through which we live. And that dictates the body that we receive in the resurrection. And the law that we are willing to live dictates the kingdom that we are ready to inherit. And that is order, that is the cosmos. That is how God works. And we are God's creation. All right. He also says here, intelligence cleaveth unto intelligence. Wisdom receiveth wisdom. Truth embraceth truth, Virtue loveth virtue. Light cleaveth to light. Mercy hath compassion on mercy and claimeth her own justice continueth its course and claimeth its own judgment Goeth before the face of him who sitteth upon the throne and governeth all things. He comprehendeth all things. And all things are before him. So what is the secret to coming up to God, to becoming celestial? And let me come back to a question you asked here in a minute, Nate. This idea that wisdom cleaveth to wisdom, light to light, and truth to truth, you start somewhere, right? And as you start to read the scriptures and feel inspired and you learn, and then it drives you to want to learn a little bit more. And you pray and you study and you figure something out, it kicks off the pheromones or whatever, and you start to feel good and you do it a little bit more. And it's similar to like weightlifting as you start lifting weights or going to the gym and exercising and feeling good, that makes it so you want to exercise more and you feel healthy and you build on it and you get this momentum. Whereas if you decide to skip it and you don't do it, then it's easier to skip it next time or it's easier to go away from it. So how do you build this light? How do you come unto God? You start small, and as you build the light and intelligence, it pulls you in a direction to where you build on it and snowball into where you're wanting to head, if that makes any sense at all. [00:41:13] Speaker A: I was literally having this exact same conversation this morning. [00:41:17] Speaker B: Yeah, totally. [00:41:20] Speaker A: It was the idea that I haven't been to the gym in a long time, but when I am going to the gym. You're totally right. And not only that, but not. Not only when you're not doing things that make you healthy, not only does it make it easier next time, but sometimes, like, the. The weight of like, the guilt and all those things, like, depress you even more. And so it's like you almost overcompensate for that by, like, binging on bad habits, you know, I mean, like, it's not even just like a casual. It's just a funny. It's a funny thing how that works. It's like when you're doing good things, they compound. And when you're doing unhealthy things or you're in a state of unhealth, mentally or emotionally, that compounds as well. [00:42:07] Speaker B: It's true. [00:42:09] Speaker A: Darkness cleaveth onto darkness. Maybe. I don't know. I'm just kidding. I don't know. [00:42:13] Speaker B: No, but you're right. And it can snowball either direction. And it's hard to say. I'm just going to hold still. You look at. And it's interesting here. I don't think the astronomy in Joseph Smith's day would have dictated that even the stars are rolling on their wings, right? The stars seem fixed. You look up at the sky, and the North Star is always in the same place, but that North Star is moving. Everything is moving, and it's impossible to hold still. We are gaining light, gaining intelligence, or we are losing light and falling behind and not. And I don't know, we're either getting healthier or we're getting less healthy, but we're not really ever being static as much as we would like to believe that we are. [00:42:56] Speaker A: There's that. When I was. When I was kind of in the preparations to go on a mission years and years and years ago, I had an interview with the Bishop, and he was like, right now you're just treading water. And I thought about that. I was like, oh, man, that's kind of a bummer. But if you've ever been in a moving river, even if you're treading water, you're still moving somewhere, right? So, like, you might not be swimming upstream, which is the hard thing to do. You might not necessarily be swimming downstream, which is the easy thing to do. But even if you're just. Even if you're just, in theory, kicking your feet to keep your head above the water, thinking that I'm just treading water, the. The current is still taking you down the stream, right? [00:43:38] Speaker B: Yes. [00:43:39] Speaker A: And it takes a very. Which, by the way, sucks when you have to get back upstream, right? Because, like, it's like, yeah, I've just been treading water, but I look far. It feels now I'm farther away than when I started. It's like, well, it's because you are. [00:43:51] Speaker B: Right? [00:43:52] Speaker A: And it takes that. It takes now twice as much effort to, like, swim back to where you were to start with. [00:43:58] Speaker B: And. And when you think of that effort, sometimes you just give up. [00:44:02] Speaker A: It's depressing. Yeah. Then, I mean, that's. That's the whole. That's the point, right? Is that even though you feel like you were just treading water, it can feel depressing to then look and be like, oh, man, now I'm, like, way further away than when I even started. And then to get the motivation to be like, okay, I gotta. Gotta start kicking back upstream again. Can be. Yeah. Very depressing and demoralizing and frustrating. [00:44:23] Speaker B: Yeah. And it builds like, I don't know, having gone through serious exercise and getting down to a really good weight and very healthy, and then letting it go and getting to the point where you need to start exercising again. Speaking of personal experience. Right. And I look at it and say, yeah, I can totally do it. And I look at what I've done before, and then I'm like, I don't know if I want to put that much effort into it anymore. I mean, it's a lot of work. Then it gets harder and harder to do it the further and further behind you are. And you don't have to do the whole Goliath effort to start with. Maybe you don't run five miles a day for a while. Maybe it starts as small as just moving your arms or doing something little to get you that, you know, as you watch. For me, it's hard as I see my parents starting to get a little bit older, and you want to see them stay with you longer and to have a good quality of life. And maybe they've given up more time where they haven't had as much time getting in shape physically for them. They don't feel like they can go do that Goliath effort. They don't feel like they can go run around the track and run for a couple miles. But maybe you just start somewhere small and get up and walk around the house, or get up and walk down the street and you begin with that. And just as light cleaveth to light. Maybe those habits will take you to a point where eventually you can. You can do a track or you can do a mile, or you can get where you need to be, but start somewhere small and work in that direction. So. Thanks, Nate. Sorry. I probably flogged a little horse on that one. [00:45:57] Speaker A: It's all good. Let's keep going. [00:45:59] Speaker B: Okay. He goes with this parable. And I think it's really cool that this parable is that he has 12. See, verse 51 set the stage. I won't read the whole parable, though. Behold, I will liken these kingdoms unto a man having a field. And he set forth his servant into the field to dig in the field. And he said unto the first. So he says, go ye and labor in the field, and I will visit you in the first hour. And to the next one go ye and labor in the field, and I will visit you in the second hour, and then the third and all the way down to the 12th hours, right? And so these different kingdoms, he says, are these different laborers. And each kingdom, he's going to go visit them for a specific hour. And he goes and he's with them for their hour, and then he leaves so that he can go visit the next one. And leave so he can go visit the next one. So what he's saying is he's not always available. He has to go and visit other workers who he's promised. But he finishes this parable in verse 63, end of verse 62. I gave unto you that you shall call upon me while I am near. Draw near unto me and I will draw near unto you. Seek me diligently and you shall find me asking. You shall receive knock, and it shall be opened unto you. And he's telling us, this kingdom, this dispensation, this is the hour where I am visiting you. This is when you can find me. Seek me and you will find me. Draw near to me, do those little things. And as you are slowly drawing to me, I am going to be drawing to you as well. And this leads to some of my favorite verses in all Scripture. Verse 67, 68. And if your eye be single to my glory, your whole body shall be filled with light, and there shall be no darkness in you. And that body which is filled with light comprehendeth all things. Therefore sanctify yourselves that your minds become single to God. And the days will come that you shall see him. For he will unveil his face unto you. And it shall be in his own time and in his own way, and according to his own will. And I think that's critical. It's not according to my time, it's not according to my way, it's according to his time in his way. And I also think it's critical that it doesn't say, and the day will come that you shall see him, but the days plural, you shall see him in his time and in his way. Remember the great and last promise which I made unto you. Cast your idle thoughts and your excess of laughter far from you. That's probably something I need to work on a lot. [00:48:45] Speaker A: Yeah, but what does that mean exactly? [00:48:47] Speaker B: That's a good question. [00:48:48] Speaker A: The thing is, is that I. I don't know. I don't know about that. I don't know if that's something that you need to work on unless you understand what it is. And if you understand what it is, maybe you can, like, key me in. Because the thing is that, like, I get the idea of like, loud laughter and the whole thing, right? [00:49:10] Speaker B: Mm. [00:49:11] Speaker A: And. And maybe it's because it's associated with light mindedness and, and, you know, like, I don't know, maybe, maybe. Maybe certain substances that probably shouldn't be involved and various things. Right. But the thing is, is that there's nothing better than getting together with family, telling old stories and reminiscing about whatever and laughing about stuff. It's like, to me, it's like, those are some of the most fulfilling, happy, virtuous, you know, absolutely ever. And so I. I think. I think to. To know if we need to be working on this or not, we should probably have maybe a better idea of what it's even talking about. [00:49:51] Speaker B: So in my mind, this. This last week, I was able to go hang out with some friends from way back, even before high school. We grew up together, and growing up, we did a lot of dumb things that we never should have done. Right? And we get together and we reminisce on some of these things. And I wish that our time spent together could have been more productive. Like, maybe some of the memories that we had could have had more substance rather than destroying somebody's property or things that you're embarrassed that you did or things that you're like, yeah, you know, we probably shouldn't have done that. It's kind of got a hollow ring to it, like, where are we now versus where could we have been? And it's not to say you don't. I don't know. It's not to say you shouldn't have these memories, you shouldn't have these fun experiences, but it seems like a lot of the times, the things that we remembered most were some of the things that we really shouldn't have been doing. [00:50:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:52] Speaker B: I don't know, man. I don't know. Trying to couple that with. You're always moving one way or the other, and what could have we have been doing to be moving in the right direction? Maybe the problem was we were so idle in our thoughts or so much chasing the laughter that rather than looking for opportunities to help people or do something that would be fulfilling, we were just pleasing ourselves. [00:51:24] Speaker A: Okay. [00:51:25] Speaker B: Or. [00:51:25] Speaker A: Or hear me out on this. [00:51:27] Speaker B: I'm listening. [00:51:27] Speaker A: Or maybe the problem was, is that you were just kids and that that's what kids do, and that when you're an adult, you put away the childish things or whatever. I get it. The thing is, is that I. And I'm trying to be even better about this as a father, is to constantly remember their kids. [00:51:49] Speaker B: They are kids. [00:51:50] Speaker A: We're kids. [00:51:51] Speaker B: So let's revisit this. Cast away your idle thoughts and your excess of laughter. Does that mean if he's saying cast it away, you already have it? Right? Is it saying it's okay to be that way as kids, but at some point you have to get beyond that and put that behind you and start making better decisions? [00:52:13] Speaker A: Did Joseph Smith enjoy having fun and wrestling and doing games and things like that? [00:52:17] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:52:18] Speaker A: Cool. Let's move on. [00:52:19] Speaker B: But did Joseph. Never mind. I'm not gonna go there. [00:52:22] Speaker A: No. But do you see what I mean, though? Look, I get that. I get that. I get that there is a level of seriousness that needs to be had at appropriate times in life. Totally with you on this. I. [00:52:35] Speaker B: Where. Where. [00:52:36] Speaker A: I don't even know if we disagree, but if we do, I'm fine. That's fine. But the idea. It's just when you said. It's just when you said, like, I need to work on this, I'm like, I couldn't disagree with you more about that. I just. I mean, unless. Unless you go home and just party crazy hard and you neglect your kids and you don't take care of your responsibilities and you don't do the things that you need to. To fulfill your calling, which I know isn't true. I know you do all those things. Like, if you were that dude, then I'd be like, okay, cool, maybe we should have this conversation. But you're not that dude. [00:53:09] Speaker B: Yeah, we. And. And God's whole role is. Let's see, what is it? God created man. That man might be happy. There is a time. [00:53:19] Speaker A: Men are. That they might have joy. [00:53:20] Speaker B: Yeah, men are. That they might have joy. There is a time and there is a place. God's not saying he wants downtrodden, depressed people to blindly worship him. We are supposed to have fun. We are supposed to laugh. It's just the excessive. And. And you're right. And what you say is right. [00:53:42] Speaker A: Like, how do you think the reunions on in the next life are gonna be? [00:53:46] Speaker B: It's gotta be joyous. [00:53:46] Speaker A: Or it's gonna be like, oh, my gosh, can you believe I was such a knucklehead? Oh, my goodness. And. And reminisce just like it is here. And reminiscing and laughing about the dumb things that we did and being able to laugh about it now because you're like, okay, you know, obviously, I've learned from that. And whatever. It's like, I can't see those as anything other than a lot of tears and hugs and laughing and talking and loudly celebrating. At least in my mind, that's what. That's what a joyous reuniting of family would be. [00:54:20] Speaker B: That's all. [00:54:20] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:54:21] Speaker B: It has to be. [00:54:22] Speaker A: But I'm. I know. [00:54:23] Speaker B: I'm. [00:54:24] Speaker A: I know now I'm beating this thing to death. But the thing is, I think that this is Misunderstood. [00:54:29] Speaker B: I think you're right. [00:54:29] Speaker A: And I think that it's sometimes there, this idea that it's like, if you're not in pain or if you're not suffering, then you're not doing what you're supposed to be doing. And I'm just like. I couldn't disagree with that more. [00:54:41] Speaker B: Right. But if you're. If you're. If you're being a knucklehead, if you're mocking spiritual things. Right. If you're. If you're sitting there in church and everybody's trying to have a sacred moment in the sacrament and you just start laughing and say, I can't believe you guys actually think that's the body of Christ. [00:54:59] Speaker A: That's. [00:54:59] Speaker B: That's. I think that's maybe the direction that. [00:55:01] Speaker A: It is, is that then we totally agree. [00:55:03] Speaker B: The success. You've got to be happy. You've got to do things. But if you start. If you start doing things that you know you shouldn't do because you're prioritizing, getting a rise or getting a laugh out of it or trying to get enjoyment out of it. Go back to Layman and Lemuel on the boat, right. In Nephi, because he's saying, you guys are going too far. [00:55:27] Speaker A: Yes. [00:55:28] Speaker B: And when you go too far and you're. And you're putting things that are sacred aside in priority of these things. [00:55:37] Speaker A: Okay, I think we agree then. [00:55:38] Speaker B: Then we're. Then that's where you're. [00:55:39] Speaker A: That's where you're. If that's where. If that's what you're understanding from the scripture, then I'm totally with you. [00:55:44] Speaker B: Okay? [00:55:45] Speaker A: But, dude, you know how it is, dude. When there was missionaries in our mission, dude, that it was like, they were just like, man, they weren't having a good time at all, so that they could feel like that they were doing a better job or something. [00:55:59] Speaker B: Yes. [00:55:59] Speaker A: You guys are insane. I'm having the time of my life. [00:56:01] Speaker B: But they're also missionaries, and I had a companion that did this, would go turn the baptismal font into a sauna to just go hang out. [00:56:11] Speaker A: See, but that's. What I'm saying is, like, that's the difference between normal people and knuckleheads. Like, that's the ultimate knucklehead, right? [00:56:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:19] Speaker A: But hopefully that's obvious to. Hopefully every normal human being. You could see that as, like, that's obviously somebody being stupid and being a knucklehead, where I think that it's easier to try to go because it's not as flamboyant. As that it's like, okay, well, if I'm miserable and if I spend seven hours a day reading the Scriptures, and if every hour that I'm not reading the scriptures, I'm just praying, and if every second that I'm not praying, I'm thinking about how terrible of a person I am, and that must mean that I'm doing good. You know what I mean? Like, that must be. If I'm miserable, it probably means that if I'm not having any fun, it probably means that I'm being righteous. Right. It's easier, I think, to do that and feel okay about it. Like nobody's. Nobody's bathing in the baptismal font thinking to themselves, yeah, this is totally normal. [00:57:11] Speaker B: Yeah. And if I could sum it up, I would say all of the emotions that we feel are divine. It's part of being us, part of being God. God goes through all of those motions as well. Even anger is righteous. [00:57:27] Speaker A: Totally agree. [00:57:28] Speaker B: And laughing and having a good time is righteous. [00:57:32] Speaker A: Totally agree. [00:57:33] Speaker B: It's when it's in excess to where it's happening at the expense of something, it shouldn't be happening. You're sacrificing something you shouldn't sacrifice in the name of having that pleasure that. [00:57:47] Speaker A: Totally with you, then, okay, cool. We got this. [00:57:49] Speaker B: Sweet. [00:57:49] Speaker A: I'm glad we were able to. I'm glad we were able to figure that out. [00:57:52] Speaker B: Thanks for things. Thanks for taking us down that road. [00:57:56] Speaker A: You're welcome, I guess. [00:57:59] Speaker B: I'm happy you did all right. Verse 74. And I think we probably need to wrap this up pretty soon. And I give unto you, who are the first laborers in this last kingdom, a commandment that you assemble yourselves together, organize yourselves and prepare yourselves, and sanctify yourselves. Yea, purify your hearts and cleanse your hands and your feet before me that I may make you clean. And. Wait a second. This is something of a discussion, right? Can we make ourselves clean, or does God make ourselves clean? And here God is saying, in order for me to sanctify you, you have to sanctify yourself first. Organize yourselves, discipline yourselves. Make yourselves clean as best you can. In order for me to make you clean, this is not just to rely on God, and it's not just to rely on yourself. This is a partnership. And that order, that preparation, if you're going to be abiding by God's order, you have to learn how to impose that order on yourself. Which, going back to the conversation we just had, making sure you're doing those emotions at the right time, or when It's a suitable environment for those emotions that I might testify to your Father and your God and my Father that you are clean from the blood of this wicked generation. That I may fulfill the promise which is the great and last promise which I have made unto you. I will teach ye diligently that grace shall attend you and you shall be instructed more perfectly. Now this is the critical thing for me. It's not that. And I will instruct you more about the celestial kingdom and what you need to do. But this list is amazing to me. They may be instructed more perfectly in theory, not just in the laws and the principles. [00:59:52] Speaker A: I'm with you now. Okay. I love this. Keep going. [00:59:55] Speaker B: Okay. In theory, in principle, in doctrine. Those are three different things. Yes, and theory is still important as it helps us understand better when we get to the principles and the doctrines. [01:00:07] Speaker A: And don't you. Isn't it easier to obey and do the right thing if you understand why you're doing the right thing? [01:00:13] Speaker B: Absolutely. [01:00:14] Speaker A: As Adam said, because I was told to. [01:00:18] Speaker B: And he says in these theories, not just pertaining to the kingdom. Because right here it says in the law of the Gospel. And all things that pertain into the kingdom of God that are expedient for you to understand. Of things both in heaven. So astronomy. Right. And in earth geography and under the earth, geology. I mean not just in the heavens, but in the earth, on the earth, under the earth. Things which have been history, things which are current events, things which must shortly come to pass. Theory, philosophy, philosophy, revelation, prophecy. Do not just shy away from this. Things which are at home, things which are abroad. The wars and the perplexities of the nation and the judgments which are on the land. And a knowledge also of countries and. And kingdoms that you may be prepared. Is there anything he didn't cover in that? Just learn as much as you can about the principles, the doctrines and the theories regarding all of these things. I don't think we shy away from the theory of evolution or the theory of. I don't think there is any danger in these things. I think God is commanding us. Be familiar with this, know it. Know what people are talking about abroad, home, everywhere. We need an educated people because who's going to pay any attention to somebody who has no idea what they're talking about? And now you expect them to be as a source of truth to be able to tell you that this is what's right. God does not want an ignorant people. And we've talked about this before. Joseph Smith said it. We save ourselves as fast as we Gain knowledge, organize yourselves, educate yourselves. And light cleaveth to light. How do we come to the presence of God, the source of all light, if it's not learning all of these things just as much as it's learning. [01:02:20] Speaker A: The gospel, gaining as much light as you can so that it's naturally attracted to God. Yes, by nature. [01:02:27] Speaker B: And you asked the question, what about God leaving wherever he is to be here? Or. And then this is what I pose as a question in answer to your question. If we become God, then are we the crown of the celestial world? Are we the Elohim, the presence? Are we. This is our. And as we go and crowning each world with gods, each God taking throne in their world, now it's a celestial world because the presence of God being a new generation of God or a new generation of. Of Elohim. I don't know the answer. I can't tell you exactly how things work. But it is cool that God says, come unto me and you can find me. And the days shall come that you will see me, and at the end you will be like me. And we can step into that role and be that crown that makes this planet so special. [01:03:29] Speaker A: Geez, man. Wow. Are you tired? Do you need a drink or something? Amen, brother. Amen. [01:03:39] Speaker B: Thanks. And I'm sorry there's so much more to cover in here, but I. I. [01:03:43] Speaker A: Think I'm gonna try to convince Jason to give us a. A special midweek part two of this. Of this section. Maybe you can email. You can email to help encourage him Weekly. [email protected]. just. Just email Jason. He sees him. I see him too. And just say, give us that special midweek part two follow up. Maybe. Maybe we'll have a little. Maybe we'll have a little surprise for you midweek. What do you think, Jason? [01:04:11] Speaker B: We'll see what Jason's like. [01:04:12] Speaker A: Please don't do this. [01:04:14] Speaker B: I love doing this. I do. [01:04:16] Speaker A: All right, all right, all right. That's awesome. What are we talking about next week if we don't do a midweek special? [01:04:22] Speaker B: Surprise next week is going to be. Well, 89 is the next section. Looks like word of wisdom is on its way, but it's such a small section. [01:04:30] Speaker A: I don't know if Caffeine, coffee, drugs that are. That are from plants of the earth versus drugs that are synthetically created in a factory somewhere to keep people addicted to them. [01:04:42] Speaker B: We're going to take an interesting dive into word of wisdom. [01:04:45] Speaker A: This. I've been looking forward to this. It'll be fun I'm going to have. Dude, I'm going to have a lot of. A lot of questions for you next week. [01:04:51] Speaker B: I'm gonna hide in the closet. [01:04:53] Speaker A: You should. I think we have one here at the studio. [01:04:55] Speaker B: All right, sweet. [01:04:56] Speaker A: All right. Until next week. [01:04:58] Speaker B: See y. [01:05:15] Speaker A: Sam.

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